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he's winning this argument, or has won this argument, as it relates to what he said about whether players should stand for the playing of the national anthem? >> i think it's certainly a step in the right direction. as we've said many times before, the president supports standing for the national anthem, saluting the flag. and honoring those men and women in uniform that fight to protect it. >> sarah -- thanks -- does the president feel as a matter of principle that it is not adequate to simply send a letter of condolence to the family of a slain service person? as president bush and president obama typically did? and does he feel it was not adequate for president obama to have sent a letter to general kelly but not call general kelly on the death of his son? >> i don't think that there's anything that any president can do. there's never going to be enough that a president can do for the
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families of those that are killed in action. the point the president was making is that there's a different process. sometimes they call. sometimes they write letter. sometimes they engage directly. the comments were certainly, i think, taken very far out of context by the media and if there's any frustration i think that's where it should be focused. >> sarah -- >> let me ask you about something steve mnuchin said and you talk a lot about this. no question in my mind if we don't get it done, meaning tax reform, you're going to see a reversal of a significant amount of these gains essentially saying if tax reform doesn't happen, there could be a -- >> we're confident that we're going to get tax cuts done, and so that's what we're focused on and we're going to continue pushing forward until we get there. >> and on the health care bill, if you don't mind -- >> sorry. just one question a day. >> the president tweeted about the california wildfire
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situation. does he have any plans at this point to visit california and survey the damage in person? and if he doesn't, does that speak to a lack of interest in him helping the state recover from the wildfires? >> not at all. again, the administration has been very engaged throughout this process. we're going to continue to be there. we're continuing to talk with state and local officials on the ground, and work with those individuals to make sure that whatever aid is needed that we can help provide that process. >> is he going to go to the state, though? >> there's no a trip planned at this time but it's certainly not ruled out either. phillip? >> thank you, sarah. can you, please, clarify the president's position on kyrgyzstan -- especially given the takeover and does the president of kyrgyzstan have an ally in general? >> the president's position hasn't changed. talked about it a couple times. we urged all sides to avoid escalating this further, oppose the violence from any party and
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would like for them to focus on helping continue in the fights against isis, and that's where -- and iran -- that's where we'd like to see their energy focused. sorry. i'm keeping to one question. >> it's been more than two months before the president declared national aid as a national emergency. monday, said he'd get it done next week. to get there a lot of work done and called it time consuming work. can you explain why it's taking so long and details what this consuming work is and what players are involved in the process? >> an in-depth legal process that goes in the worksy declaring federal emergencies. there have been multiple people. it's an inner agency process. a lot of stakeholders involve ared and we'll have further announcements next week, like the president said. sorry, i stick to the one question. >> just following up on the tax reform meeting today. can you sort of talk about the strategy from the white house
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going forward on this? i know we were told before kems were a must very have on this bill or on tax reform. is that still where thing? >> it's simple. the strategy, get enough votes to pass tax cuts. >> can you elaborate getting democrats onboard? >> love to see them onboard. we don't know why any democrat would be against providing tax relief and tax cuts specifically to middle class america. i don't know why anybody wouldn't want to get onboard with that. >> almost a month since hurricane maria hit puerto rico. almost 80% of the island is without power and 1 million americans, one therpd of the population, still don't have reliable drinking water. does the administration consider this acceptable and does the buck stop with president trump when it comes to puerto rico? >> we're continuing to do everything we can to help puerto rico. it's one of the reasons the governor will be here at the white house tomorrow to continue those conversations, to talk about how best the federal
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government can help aid state and local governments and help in the rebuilding and rovgry efforts. eamon? >> thank you, sarah. the fed chair search. the president once said he considers himself to be a low interest rate guy. does he still consider himself to be a low interest rate guy and will that have a bearing who eselects to run the -- >> as the president said yesterday, he's interviewed a number of very qualified individuals and will make that announcement in the coming days and we can deliberate all the details once that happens. i'm sorry? days add up to weeks. >> -- sarah -- >> the phone call quick. what exactly is the president denying? that he ever spoke these words to the widow that she, he must have known what he signed up for, or she took it the wrong way and it was taken out of context? >> the president's call as accounted by multiple people in the room believe that the president was completely
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respectful, very sympathetic, and expressed condolences of himself and the rest of the country, and thanked the family for their service, commended them for having an american hero in their family, and i don't know how you can take that any other way. >> and he didn't say those words. it was the context. he felt that she put it in the wrong context. is that it? >> i'm not getting into the back and forth. i think the sentiment of the president was very clear. he took the time to make a call, express condolences and thank the family for this individual's service, and i think it, frankly, is a disgrace of the media to try to portray an act of -- kindness like that, and that gesture, try to make it into something that it isn't. peter? >> sarah, did the president speak to his chief of staff, general kelly, are before invoking his son's death and as a political argument. spoke to general kelly
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yesterday and today. >> does general kelly know he would raise the issue of his son's memory talking about -- >> i'm not sure if he knew of that specific comment, but certainly they'd spoken about it and he's aware and they've spoken several times before then. >> did you describe how general kelly feels about it? is he comfortable? >> i think general kelly is disgusted the way this has been politicized and that the focus has become on the process, and not the fact that american lives were lost. i think he's disgusted and frustrated by that. if he has anger, it's towards that. fred? >> thanks. the house -- a few weeks back, passed a ban on paying for abortions. the president has part of the -- has said the president would sign this legislation. is the white house putting pressure on the senate to pass the lindsey graham bill banning the -- sorry? the last part of the question? >> is the white house putting pressure on the senate to pass
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the lindsey graham -- >> i know there have been conversations about that and the administration supports that policy. but beyond that i don't know if there have been further conversations or pressure applied. but certainly support that effort. >> sarah -- >> sarah -- >> april? >> sarah, congresswoman wilson, i talked to her a couple hours ago. she says that this is the president's ben gauzy, that jackson was, and his green berets were in niger trying to find out information and doing a mission about boko haram and she said that his transmitter was still emitting for two days and didn't signal where he was located and says that makes no sense why he wasn't located. ly what what say you about that and about her comment that he did not know, angd td the wife,
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widow, said he didn't know his name. >> just because the president said your guy, i don't think that means he doesn't know his name. as the president stated, the hardest job he has is making calls like that. i think it is appalling what the congresswoman has done in the way she's politicized this issue, and the way that she is trying to make this about something that it isn't. this was a president who loves our country very much, who has the greatest level of respect for men and women in the uniform, and wanted to call and offer condolences to the family, and i think to try to create something from that, that the congresswoman is doing is frankly appalling and disgusting. >> what she said about -- niger -- what about what she said about the mission and -- >> as i said, i won't get into the details of that access at this point. >> i'm not getting into the details of that action at this time and when we have further information i'll be happy to discuss it with you.
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>> sarah -- >> hallie? >> i just want to, setting aside the congresswoman and setting aside the discussion about the politicization of this, the woman who raised sergeant johnson spoke to the "washington post" saying she felt her son was disrespected. i'm not asking you about what congresswoman wilson had to say, given somebody, as you rightly know, making these phone calls is probably one of the hardest things the commander in chief has to do that, given that, is the president reconsidering the way he communicates with these families? has general kelly counseled him how to choose or change his words in the future? >> general kelly was there for the call, thought it was completely appropriate. thought the call was respectful and that the president did the best job he could under though those circumstances to offer condolences on behalf of the country. >> and was that -- parts that -- >> and the mexican negotiators rejected the u.s. proposals. proposals described by some
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conventional and troubling. is nafta dead? >> not yet, but as the president said, it's a bad deal and he wants to make sure we have a deal that benefits american workers. that's what this administration is focused and and we'll continue to push forward. if we can't get there we'll let you know what the changes are ap francesca? >> thank you, sarah. in a tweet this morning the president said james comey lied, leaked and totally protected hillary clinton and asked where is the justice department on this? what exactly does the president want the justice department to do? calling for prosecution of james comey? >> the white house hasn't and woen issue opinion on comey's conduct, but, in fact to the contrary, the white house is deferred, as it should, any and all legal questions regarding comey to the justice. that's appropriate to do. >> what about heeding the warning what i'm asking.
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>> we refer to the department of justice. anything on that front is handled by them. >> sarah, the president is upset about something, normally, we hear from him pretty quickly. whether an issue with a senator or with the nfl. so why did it take nearly two weeks for him to say something about this isis ambush, not to reach out to the families, even to offer public condolences or explain to the american public what happened and how the deadliest combat mission involving american troops went so wrong? >> as i said before, there is a protocol for that but also we did make public remarks from the administration. i know i did in short order after that happened from the podium at the direction of the -- at the direction of the president, and i speak on his behalf and i did that on behalf of the president and the administration. >> sarah, you brought up politicizing a couple of times in relation to comey and wilson, but did he political size general kelly's keth bringing up
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claims what past presidents did or did not do? >> responding to a question and stating a fact. >> to clarify your earlier answer. you're not denying that in some point in the conversations the president used the words, that's what he signed up for? >> i spoke specifically to the sentiment offered by the president. i didn't get into the details of a personal call because i don't mind to to be appropriate. trey? >> thank you, sarah. opened at the top talking about deliberation of raqqa. my question for you, how does the president envision future u.s. involvement in both syria and iraq post-isis. >> we want to continue to work with coalition forces to completely destroy and defeat isis. right now that's the priority and that's the focus, and that's where we're going to continue to be focused on at this time. thank you, guys, so much for today and see you tomorrow. >> thank you, sarah. i'm chris jansing in nor ali
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she v vels velshi. a busy day. one of the key questions about a story decidedly that's taken a wrong turn. supposed to be a tribute to the lives of those four servicemen who died in the line of duty fighting for their country. instead, it's become a battle between president trump and a congresswoman, a former president and a gold star family. president trump today called florida congresswoman fredricka wilson a liar after criticizing his phone call to the pregnant wife of army sergeant la david johnson. he was one of the glee berets who died in niger two weeks ago. his widow, the family members and congresswoman on the way to receive the sergeant's remains when the president called. you're looking at video as sergeant johnson's casket returned home. listening to the phone on speaker phone, how it was described.
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>> -- said, well, i guess you -- something to the fact that he knew what he was getting into when he signed up, but i guess it hurts anyway. you know? just matter of factually. that this is what happens. anyone who is signing up for military duty is signing up to die. and that's the way we interpreted it. and it was horrible. she was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, he didn't even remember his name. >> she also says the president spoke to the family for about three to five minutes. the widow only saying thank you to the president at the end of the phone call. this morning, the president responded. mr. trump what about what the phone -- >> didn't say what that congresswoman said. didn't say it at all. she knows it and is not not saying it. ip did not say what she said and
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i'd like her to make the statement again because i did no the say what she said. i had a very nice conversation with the woman, with the wife who is, sounded like a lovely woman. did not say what the congresswoman said and most people aren't too surprised to hear that. >> [ inaudible ]. >> let her make her statement again and then you'll find out. >> are you saying that -- >> let her make her statement gnd and you'll find out. >> well, sergeant johnson aunt told the "washington post" that the call did happen as the congresswoman described it. and representative wilson called out the president again on twitter saying, she stands by her account, and then chastised the president for not addressing the widow by her name. myeshia johnson. peter alexander joins us at the white house and peter, once again, a controversy created by the president and again he has suggested that he has proof that congresswoman wilson is lying, but it doesn't seem sarah huckabee sanders can produce
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that proof. >> reporter: yes. the proof is in a recording. no tape recordings on this conversation. sarah huckabee sanders made that clear and insists other was in the room with the president during the course of that conversation. including the general. chief of staff john kelly, who was present at the time. i was struck by the fierce choice of words by sarah huckabee sanders and pushing back against what really has become a political fight over the gravest of obligations for all presidents. the contacts they maim, outreach, with gold star families. families of the american service members who have given their lives for this country. sarah huckabee sanders said of the congresswoman's language that it was appalling and disgusting. she said the president was respectful that he was sympathetic and used the word "disgraced" to describe the characterization much in her idea, her words, by the media and sort of the way this story has been presented. they say the president as she insisted, general john kelly sort of a character witness to the president being there saying
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that the president was completely appropriate in the way he handled it. that he was respectful and did the best job he could in that circumstance. i also asked huckabee sanders weth the president's chief of staff john kelly was aware that he would invoke kelly's own son who died in afghanistan in 2010 before the president invoked his name, general kelly's son's name in what that become a political fight. he said the president and chief of staff kelly have spoken multiple times in the course of the last 48 hours. it wasn't entirely clear whether in fact general kelly had signed off on that. he's been very private about his son's death in the past, but she did seem to make it clear that the two men had had conversations and have been on the same page. we've reached out to general john kelly -- >> i'm going to interrupt you.
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kasie? >> -- call up say i didn't mean it. i'm sorry. i'm sure he called for all the right reasons. when he said president obama didn't do x or y, i don't think that was appropriate. there's -- there are no doubts in my mind that it broke president obama's heart every time somebody died on his watch, even though i'm much closer with president trump on foreign policy. this doesn't serve our nation well. to the families of the fallen we all love you, cherish you and want keep you. president trump cares for the military. i will challenge anybody because he does. did he handle himself unartfully? i don't know. i'll leave that up to you. >> and a broader conversation that came up inner its of why he brought up president obama, you spent a lot of time with him? >> somebody criticized him for not reacting appropriately to the four soldiers killed in niger. right? is that what it was?
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niger. yeah, yeah. okay. not nigeria but niger and he lashes out. i think he had a good explanation of what we did as his administration regarding the fallen four. so he goes down the road of obama, well, you know, if you are criticizing me, look what obama did. do me that's not where we need to go. to me, it's not how obama did it versus how did it but about how we all do it. say to every member of the fallen you're in our prayers. what can we do to help? going down the road president obama did do this or that i think just took us off base. as to president trump, there is no doubt in my mind, none at all, that he cares deeply about those who serve. none, zero. >> reporter: another subject. the compromise announced yesterday on health care is that compromise dead? >> i don't know. i can tell you this. the idea of continuing payments
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has to be married up with reform. i appreciate what senator alexander tried to do with senator murray to get flexibility so the money going into the system will get better results. senator johnson's working on a broader list of reforms. i think there are a lot of republicans willing to continue the payments if the patients benefit and we can get reform to a broken obamacare system. nobody believes this fixing obamacare permanently but plenty of republicans are willing to continue the payments including the president if you get rereform. senator alexander's bill is not enough for many people. maybe senator johnson can close that gap. >> reporter: thanks very much for your time, sir. and chris jansing, i think you may still be with me live. just talking to senator lindsey graham. >> did we miss something? probably joined about 15, 20 seconds in. what did we miss at the top
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there, kasie? >> reporter: i think that you caught the gist of it. >> okay. >> reporter: at the very top of our conversation i had asked him about the comments and the back and forth between the president, president trump and, of course, the family of sergeant johnson, and that conversation, and whether or not it was appropriate for the president to be talking about that the way he has, and senator graham essentially had a two-prong message saying on the first that he believes president trump has the military's and our service members best interests at heart and cares deeply about them. but he also said that attempting to bring president obama and question president obama's motives or whether or not he acted appropriately towards the families of service members who were killed was not appropriate. and he thought that was a distraction. so i thought that was -- significant comments from senator graham here. he is, of course, somebody who developed a relationship with the president. he's been golfing with him
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recently somebody who understands very well that the best way to send a message to the president is oftentimes through doing interviews that the president will take note of what is said and often adjust or may actually prompt a phone call, or another conversation. so i think we should take note of that particular thing. and also i talked to him about, we've covered, of course, the health care compromise announced yesterday. seems like that has quickly deflated here on capitol hill. house speaker paul ryan suggested he would oppose it. the president sent mixed messages. now sounds like here in the senate they are, as senator graham talked about at the end there, potentially coming up with a different, broader compromise from another couple of senators. so it looks and feels to me like, while yesterday we felt there was a bill to deal with the csrs, that's going nowhere fast. >> thank you very much, kasie hunt. in the thick of things. peter alexander, thank to you as well. for more on the president's
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comments, retired colonel and medal of honor for extraordinary service dur the vietnam. nice to talk to you. the description of this call from the president to a grieving willed oh is particularly heartbreaking, because we're told that the family had just learned they were not going to be able to have an open casket. they were on their way to the airfield and when the call was over, myeshia johnson said to the kongwoman, says he didn't even remember my husband's name. we just heard from the senator saying this doesn't serve our nation well. what's your thought on all of this? >> well, two things come to mind. i know it's become a cliche to say it's the most difficult thing that you do. a lot of us have had to do it. it's very tough telling a -- telling a next of kin that they've lost a loved one in
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combat. especially in an environment where, in which we have so few people in uniform. almost a wide gulf that's opened up between the people who are being served and the people, young men and women, who are out there defending all 320 million of us by themselves. it's -- anybody who's done that before will never forget it. a lot of us have done that before. but when you're graceless about it, even clumsy about it, and then elevate the relationship with the widow of a fallen soldier to a, a public spat about who says what is the height of ineptitude. >> there are two issues, it seems here, about process. and process in some ways seems secondary, but it is also a part of this conversation. there is a process that they go through to notify the president. you certainly don't want him
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prematurely making a call or making a call at a time that may be inappropriate. but it's something different altogether, isn't it, jack, just to, once the defense department said and they confirmed that four of our bravest had died in the line of duty, that you can at least come out and say, we honor their service. we grieve with their families. they're in our thoughts and prayers. you don't have to call the families, right then. you can talk about it in general, right? >> yes, you can. and that's something you or i would say or somebody else would say but it's not something donald trump would necessarily say. if you're the president of the united states, especially in this environment, where we have so few people actually serving, in this engagement where we lost four, in a difficult place. doing a very difficult mission. now, training people to defend their own country.
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you're supposed to pick up the phone and call the next of kin and spoupposed to be sympatheti about it. donald trump may think he's sympathetic. there was a segment on "seinfeld" one time where george costanza turns to jerry and said, if you really believe it, it isn't a lie. it's entirely possible donald trump thinks he was actually being sympathetic. >> i've known you a long time, jack, including having the honor going to vietnam with you to the field where your comrades fought and died. i've rarely seen you this emotional. >> yeah. it's -- it's very upsetting when you think about the young men and women who are out there defending us. when i was in the army, when i fought, we had several million people in uniform. we had a draft. a lot of people were dragged kicking and screaming into the
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military, though if you talked to them today they'll tell you it's the proudest thing they ever did, to wear the uniform of the united states. and a lot of them died. i had a lot of friends who didn't come back. i had a lot of friends around me who didn't come back. i had a lot of friends i couldn't save. to elevate or to -- to reduce the exchange between a president of the united states and the widow of a, of a slain warrior to a public spat is not only the height of ineptitude, like i said. it speaks to an ignorance that extremely difficult to find anywhere else in public life. >> jack jacobs honor and privilege to know you, my friend. thank you, and let me say, thank you to all of the service men and women and their families who are a part of that small number of people who are helping us all stay safe. we have a lot more to come. harsh homecoming.
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attorney general jeff sessions facing his former colleagues on the senate jish afore the first time since his confirmation hearing. hearing titled the "oversight of thes justice department" quickly turched to one dominant subject. russia. jeff sessions refused to answer many of the topics despite democrats warnings before the hearing they expected him to come to play. >> did the president ever mention to you his concern about lifting the cloud on the russia investigation? >> senator feinstein, that calls for a communication that i've had with the president and i believe it remains confidential. i have never had a meeting with any russian officials to discuss any kind of coordinating campaign effort. >> did you conspire with russia or an agent of the russian government to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential
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election? >> no. >> were you aware of a meeting between don jr., manafort and jared kushner with a russian lawyer and some other russians in trump tower? >> ah -- no. >> msnbc's derek haig covering that hearing from capitol hill and joins us live. what's the big takeaway here, garrett? >> reporter: chris, the big takeaway, all the question jeff sessions didn't answer. he once again, as when here over the summer talking to the senate intel committee invoked this sort of foggy executive privilege. not coming right out saying this is something the president asked me not to talk about but saying it would be inappropriate for him to answer questions about a number of private conversations that he had had with the president. you know, probably the most notable of those, including one of the ones you played about the firing of james comey. when had he and the president discussed it? he couldn't say. had the president ever asked him about lifting the cloud, language we heard from the president. he refused to say. but it showed up on other
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topics. one of the senators asked him about the pardon for joe arpaio, the sheriff in harz ars and this is another case in which the attorney general said that's a private conversation i had with the president. i'm not going to talk about it. so the democrats i talked to on this committee as they were leaving were to some degree frustrated, although no especially surprised. they thought he might stonewall in this way. what they hoped is that in each of these instances he essentially stood up with a red flag saying these are important issues. things that are sensitive for bob mueller or for any other investigator who might be coming behind to follow-up on. and he did say today that he has not yet been contacted by bob mueller, the special counsel for an interview. although it seems almost certain given the issues he wouldn't talk about that at some point he will be. chris? >> garrett hake. thank you so much. for more i'm joined by matt miller, msnbc security analyst and former spokesperson and "new
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york times" washington correspondent and msnbc security contributor mike's schmidt. michael, pick up with you, what we heard from garrett hake, a big story what he didn't answer. did we learn anything or did he just raise more questions than we got answers? >> he didn't really move the ball forward at all. sort of fell back to where he was several months ago when before congress in a different situation where he was explaining these meetings that had calm up we had not disclosed to them. seems he'll hold firm on this and use it as a way of not having to get into it and litigate it with the president. we have to remember in the background here is the fact that the president has really sharply criticized him. the president blames him for the russia investigation for the fact that mueller was apointed. really gone after him. those criticisms have sort of been ratcheted back recently but we expect them to probably increase going forward. at least white house officials do, as the russia investigation heats up. >> and then a heated exchange
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between jeff sessions and senator al franken. take a listen. >> i'd be pleased to answer that. i'm not sure -- i should -- without -- clearing that with the special counsel. what do you think? >> have you been interviewed? by them? >> no. >> you haven't been interviewed by the special counsel in any way, shape or manner? >> the answer is, no. >> that obviously was not al franken. that was, in fact, pat leahy. do we have the al franken sound? i'm guessing we don't. matt, let me ask you, look, there were times, i'm sure you saw it, we saw pretty combative jeff sessions. what's the impact, do you think? if we didn't necessarily learn anything. first of all, do you agree with that? but what's the impact then of what happened today? >> i agree we didn't actually
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learn anything, although when the a.g. declines to answer questions, in ways that's a confirmation. having prepared a former attorney general for these types of questions, if the president hadn't talked to him about comey's firing being related to the russian matter who would have answered the question. might have said i can't discuss specific conversations with the president but can tell you the president never raised anything inappropriate with respect to russia in this context. there's a way of answering the question. the fact he wouldn't tell us, tells us out in what we need to know but the general direction. in terms of what we learned. it was a somewhat shaky performance i thought by the attorney general. a number of areas he seemed unfamiliar with the basic workings of the department including things he was involved in. played the exchange whether interviewed by mueller. later in the hearing asked whether the special counsel asked him for an interview. the kind of thing you would typically expect the attorney general to know the aens to. it's a big deal. he didn't seem to know.
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his staff had to tell him. a number of other things. combative at times, uncertain at others and mystifying at other times with other questions for jeff sessions, the appearance. >> you've covered michael schmidt, interference with the election from the very beginning. where does to go from here? >> we have to see what comes of mueller. he's working his way through without officials. met with sean shpicer, reince priebus and will meet with others looking at the comey firing, the question how the white house responded to questions in july from the "new york times" about meetings that had gone on between russians and campaign officials back in 2016. looks like the white house produced pretty much all the documents to mueller he's asked for. at least that's wa we're told by white house officials, and he will continue to go through that. in many ways mueller is sort of a black box.
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you can't see a lot into it, not a lot of leaks coming out of mueller's office. where this is headed in that sense still remains to be seen. >> i get asked all the time by people, by strangers saying, when will we hear about the results of the mueller investigation? i'm going to say call michael schmidt from now on. i certainly don't know. thank you, michael. good to see you. matt miller, thank you also well. up next, commissioner roger goodell believes the nfl believes awe players "should stand for the national anthem." what this mean for any players who continue to take a knee this season. plus, the list of women accusing disgraced hollywood mogul harvey weinstein is sexual harassment a growing, prompting oprah winfrey to open up about what she thinks is the broader impact of this scandal. >> i think this is a watershed moment, and if we make this just about harvey weinstein, then we
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or the land of the free ♪ that was last night's nba season opener between the cleveland cavaliers and boston celtics. you couldn't see it in that video well. rather than take a knee, players from both teams locked arms as a show of solidarity keeping with nba rules requiring players to stand during the national anthem. a directive that doesn't exist, by the way, in the nfl rulebook. roger goodell wrapped up a second day of meetings including team players and owners. we find nbc's ron mott live at the headquarter nrs new york. what happened there today, ron? >> reporter: hey there, chris. good afternoon to you. in fact, today was just owners meeting for the second and final day of this fall meeting and roger goodell, giving a brief
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statement yesterday had a more thorough news conference today and this issue over the national anthem sort of dominated all questions there. he said the league wants to stay out of politics but that's exactly where this league finds itself today, because it is not going to force as the nba, force players to stand during the national anthem but strongly encourage players to do that. the president involved in this as well. what he tweeted this morning. comes weeks after the controversial statements at the rally in alabama. said on twitter the nfl decided it will not force players to stand for the playing of our national anthem. total disrespect for our great country. obviously, roger goodell was asked about the president's comments. he says he has no plans to meet with the president at this point. i asked, the nfl talks about wanting to support the players and their causes. what exactly does that support mean and does the nfl and vaulted shield of theirs, how far do they want to get involved
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in social and political issues, can get sticky. this is his response to that. >> we're not afraid of the tough conversations. that's what we're having with our players. that's what we had yesterday to make sure we understand one another and understand where they're coming from. and i think out of those discussions, they understand that the owners and the nfl really do care about their issues. >> reporter: okay. so seems this issue will continue. the next opportunity for a player to sit or -- kneel comes tomorrow night in oakland and one of the players on the oakland raiders team has been sitting on the bench during the playing of the national anthem at games this season, chris. >> ron mott, thank you for that and asking those questions. well, today the number of women who say they were sexually abused or harassed by harvey weinstein grows. "game of thrones" lena headey said in a series of tweets weinstein made sexual advances towards her on two occasions and accused him of making a
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suggestive comment during the venice and lafred it off and years later he tried to get her to come to his hotel room making her feel "completely powerless." 50 women are now accusing harvey weinstein. sexual miscontact to rape. his spokesperson says they are unequivocally deniedenied. his company terminated him. and a #metoo was started, actress melissa milano used it sunday, thousands of women, and men, have come forward with stories of harassment and abuse. among them now, olympic athlete mckayla maroney. you saw president obama with her doing that. in a statement on twitter maloney alleges she was
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repeatedly molested by the former olympic team director larry nassar. i had a dream get to the olympics. 9 things i had to do to get there were unnecessary and disgusting. we reached out to her attorney but received no response. currently in jail waiting trial on two state charges. he pleaded not guilty. joining me now, liz plank, executive producer of fox fod cas podcast states of women. i hardly know where to begin. oprah winfrey says it's a turning point. do you think it is. >> i hope it is and i think it will be a turning point if we see men speaking about this issue. one of the differences with the harvey weinstein case is that, as you said, 55 women, multiple women coming forward and the #metoo, started ten years ago, started this campaign that's
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helped women speak out is so important. the board is important. the board terminating him and men deciding this kind of behavior is not acceptable in their companies, and just as part of their gender. they're taking responsibility and holding men accountable. i hope that's the watershed moment because that's actually going to prevent further cases of sexual assault. because men are responsible. >> i hope that's what people take away from this. that it's not okay as opposed to something that someone might do arguably to protect their own company or whatever it is. you responded saying you were sexually harassed, groped, that you were physically and verbally attacked. and you started your own hashtag. himthough. what does that mean? >> i was -- so in awe of the women who used me to share their stories and that as i'm sure for you my entire feed and i was so
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proud of them for coming forward and sick of having to -- sick of having to tell my story and sick of women having to tell their stories to be believed. it's actually pretty ludicrous we call men's violence against women a women's issue. and actually it speaks volumes to who we hold accountable and responsible to stop that violence. it affects the resources that go into the issue. there's a department of justice study shows only 8% of the resources that go to rape prevention are going to men. that is not going to help solve this problem. if we do not hold men accountable for what they're doing and if men do not hold themselves accountable as well. >> so what do you see happening next? because clearly you know, things do change in terms of social mores. maybe more women will feel that can stand up and step up. it doesn't necessarily change the fact if you're a young 22-year-old you don't have to be
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in hollywood. you can be anywhere working for a powerful person and find yourself in this situation. is it something congress needs to look at? are the laws not strong enough? not enforced enough? does every board room in america need to sit down and say, do we know that this is not going to happen in our company, because if it does, there will be consequences? >> absolutely. look, the vast majority of rapists and men who abuse women do not spend a minute or second in jail. that's the problem with our crim international and just is system. and rape kits on shelved, police departments not taking women seriously. we've heard the stories. absolutely. this needs to be something that everyone takes responsibility for. every parent has a conversation with their daughter, right? we've all had that conversation about hue to watch out for rape and how to prevent sexual assault and harassment. why aren't we having that conversation with our sons? we need to have that conversation with our sons. >> you ask a critical question.
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liz plank. thanks to the parents already having that conversation. thank you for coming in. coming up, a den very man shows up for his apoichlt with u.s. immigration services thinking after a process that's taken him 16 years he is finally going to get his green card. instead, he's detained now facing deportation and his daughter, a senior at yale university will join me, next. oh, you brought butch. yeah! (butch growls at man) he's looking at me right now, isn't he? yup. (butch barks at man) butch is like an old soul that just hates my guts. (laughs) (vo) you can never have too many faithful companions. introducing the all-new crosstrek. love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek.
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important to say the crisis in puerto rico is still ongoing. only 17% of the island has power. about 70% have access to drinking water. the death toll stands at 48 people. sarah huckabee sanders reiterated the pledge to assist all hurricane-ravaged areas. >> we'll be welcoming the governor of puerto rico to the white house to talk about the ongoing recovery and rebuilding efforts. we'll continue working hand in hand with local leaders in all areas of our country that have been impacted by several natural disasters in recent months. gabe gutierrez is in puerto rico outside a makeshift military hospital. tell us what's going on where you are. >> here in the southwest part of puerto rico, one of the areas hardest hit by maria, we're here in what's known as a csh, a version of m.a.s.h. that stands for combat support hospital. this is one of the makeshift
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facilities the u.s. army put together. 44 beds. most are open right now but they're trying to get outpatients out of here. i'm joined by one of the surgeons here, dr. dan ramoin. what have you been seeing? >> over the past couple of days our queue has jumped. i've seen more trauma in the past two days than in the past year since i graduated from residency. just this morning a patient came in doing construction work and had a pipe fall on his head. he was losing consciousness. we had to intebait him and send him to central medico. >> how difficult is for them to find adequate medical care? >> right now, ryder hospital, the big county hospital/trauma center, that serves really disadvantaged population mostly, does not have a functional operating room or icu. so right now, those patients don't have another place to go. >> you think you've been saving lives here? >> absolutely.
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we have absolutely saved lives and it just feels great to take care of our fellow americans. >> thank you so much, doctor. appreciate your time. this is part of the aftermath of hurricane maria. much of this island, vast majority, still without power. many people are without clean drinking water as well. these are some of the efforts the u.s. army is trying to make in order to get people adequate medical care. back to you. >> gabe gutierrez in puerto rico for us, thank you. on a day when attorney general jeff sessions defended the trump administration's immigration policies and actions, one yale student is fighting to protect her father from those same policies. viviana antizola marquez's father is being detained right now at an i.c.e. facility in aurora, colorado. he could be deported. viviana has started an online petition calling for her father's release and, so far, it's gotten more than 19,000 signatures. these also raised more than $67,000 through a go fund me
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account and a #fleemelecio has become a rallying fry. viviana joins us now. thank you for being with us. if you can, tell us your father's story. >> sure. so last thursday, my dad had what we thought was his final and routine appointment to obtain his residency at the u.s. citizenship and immigration service in centennial, colorado. when we got there, the interview proceeded as we were prepared for by our lawyer. but then when the interview was going on, the official asked me if i could leave the room for a second, and this was after she had already told us my dad had been recommended for approval. about 20 minutes later my dad's lawyer came out and said my dad was detained by three i.c.e. agents without the ability of having his rights read to him.
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>> the head of i.c.e. actually referenced your father's story along with some other immigrants' stories during a speech at the heritage foundation yesterday. i want to play that. >> they got an order from a federal judge, issued from a bench and i.c.e.'s job is to execute that order. if anybody in this room ignored a judge's order, what would happen to you? they want to vilify the men and women for doing their job and executing a judge's order issued from a bench. shame on these folks. >> so i guess he's saying you are vilifying the people in that room who were simply doing their job. what is your reaction when you hear that? >> it's a little shocking and ridiculous to hear because these officials have the discretion to have granted my dad his residency. i was told that reinstating his exclusion was a choice made by the deportation official.
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so to hear that -- >> but based on what? >> based on -- why was his -- >> why would they do that? do you have any idea? >> to my understanding, it's just a political moment right now. under obama's administration, this isn't something that would have happened. my dad would have walked out of that room with a green card because he was eligible and he followed the very narrow path that was available for him to gain lawful status. for them to misconstrue this as just following the law is inaccurate. they indeed have the discretion to have granted my dad his residency because he qualified and also qualified for a pardon for his entry. >> we only have about 30 seconds left, but what's next for your dad? >> what's next is, we are asking i.c.e. to release my dad on a stay of removal so he can continue to file his case with the lawyer. and after that, we will be open to -- motion to reopen his case
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to see if there are other any avenues for him to continue down the path to obtaining residency. >> viviana, good luck. and keep us posted on how it's going. >> i definitely will. thank you so much. >> thank you, and good luck. before we go, another big day for the stock market. the dow surging 156 points, bypassing yesterday's record high of 23,000. markets just minutes from closing and the dow is inching closer and closer above 23,000, 23,153 at this moment. that would be a record close. that will bring the hour to a close for me. ali velshi will be back here tomorrow. i'm chris jansing. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts now. >> it's 4:00 in new york. today i'm sorry. i'm sorry that donald trump accused previous american presidents of not calling the families of men and women in our military who lost loved ones
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fighting for this country. i'm sorry that donald trump yesterday suggested john kelly hadn't received a call from president obama invoking an unthinkable tragedy for the kelly family, one they've sought to keep far, far away from politics, and i'm sorry today mrs. kuwanda jones jr. who lost her son david t. johnson in an ambush near niger two weeks ago feels that president trump disrespected her family during a call with her son's widow by saying that the young soldier knew what he signed up for. donald trump disputes that account but the soldier's wife, the woman who raised him and a democratic congresswoman who were all witnesses' to the widow's side of the conversation confirm the family account. there are plenty of reasons to believe the grieving family instead of the president, even if you are part of the unshakeable 32%. trump has enjoyed strong support among the military since the early days of his primary campaign.


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